tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6961013213295784744.post7106089185458291004..comments2023-06-21T06:55:20.461-05:00Comments on Logic, Sin, and Love: Aquinas and Intellectscott robertshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11349533381354610156noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6961013213295784744.post-63344304564060701362008-03-13T11:27:00.000-05:002008-03-13T11:27:00.000-05:00If you actually read my post you would have noted ...If you actually read my post you would have noted that I am not trying to prove the existence of God, or anything else.scott robertshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11349533381354610156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6961013213295784744.post-30296779653372050712008-03-12T20:05:00.000-05:002008-03-12T20:05:00.000-05:00To ask, and hence to try to "prove" if God exists ...To ask, and hence to try to "prove" if God exists is already to doubt God's existence absolutely, and it reflects a commitment to the presumption that God does not exist until it absolutely proven otherwise. <BR/><BR/>Once it is presumed that the existence of God is in doubt or in need of proof, the dreadful dilemma of presumed separation from God has already solidified, and neither inner reason/philosophy/theology nor outer revelation has sufficient power to liberate the individual from the subtle and fundamental despair that is inherent in such actively presumed Godlessness.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6961013213295784744.post-55292921570516884982008-02-14T09:11:00.000-06:002008-02-14T09:11:00.000-06:00The eternal, in its strict theological sense, just...The eternal, in its strict theological sense, just means non-spatiotemporal, as opposed to meaning time everlasting. So to say that God is eternal is to say that God is not a spatiotemporal object, that God's reality lies outside of space and time.<BR/><BR/>What I'm saying about consciousness is that I think its reality also lies outside of space and time -- otherwise one could not be aware of time passing (see the referenced post for a slightly longer argument).scott robertshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11349533381354610156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6961013213295784744.post-8720565045940396472008-02-14T06:26:00.000-06:002008-02-14T06:26:00.000-06:00I'm curious to understand what you mean here:"I co...I'm curious to understand what you mean here:<BR/>"I conclude that consciousness could not exist unless the eternal is real, but that, of course, does not resolve the mystery, which is how the eternal and spatiotemporal relate, and that cannot be "thought through"<BR/><BR/>What do you mean be the eternal? I don't see how the eternal and spatiotemporal are different necessaraly.<BR/><BR/>For some reason I'm reminded of Spinoza's "Ethics". Here he talks about the existance of the eternal (infinite) versus the finite.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com